New Zealand begins talks on joining Aukus defence pact

Peters heads to Australia on Wednesday for an inaugural joint meeting of New Zealand and Australian foreign and defence ministers, and said the talks would also canvas what joining an expanded Aukus grouping would mean for Wellington.

“Pillar two [of Aukus] is the examination we’re going to look at beginning tonight and tomorrow and going forward,” he said in an interview.

“Pillar two” of the Aukus pact is separate from the first pillar designed to deliver nuclear-powered attack submarines to Australia, but what any new agreement would entail is not yet public. New Zealand has had a nuclear free policy since the 1980s and there has been no indication this will change.

“They’ve have certainly upped their game, but they need to work with greater intensity on the immediate problems at the ground level of many of the island nations,” he said.

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Peters, who held the role of foreign minister from 2005 to 2008 and again from 2017 to 2020, returned to the role in late 2023 when a new conservative coalition government was elected.

In 2017, Peters launched a “Pacific Reset” pouring aid and boosting engagement with the region in an effort to woo neighbouring countries at a time when China was dramatically increasing its presence in the region.